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Post by Rodney on Aug 3, 2012 12:02:57 GMT -8
Does anyone know if the Devo 10+ adapter will work with the Phoenix Flight Simulator?
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Post by majic1 on Aug 5, 2012 11:40:37 GMT -8
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Post by Rodney on Aug 14, 2012 18:28:20 GMT -8
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Post by majic1 on Aug 15, 2012 11:34:32 GMT -8
I have RF also and yes, the 12-in-1 dongle does work with RF as well as several others. I just prefer Phoenix. I was disappointed with the graphics in RF and the heli flight seems more realistic in Phoenix as well.
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Post by Rodney on Sept 17, 2012 8:29:19 GMT -8
:-/I'll have to go to the local hobby shop in town and check out the Phoenix Sim to compare it with RealFlight G6. One of the reasons I went with RF, is the hobby shop here said the Devo would not work with Phoenix Sim, so I went with RF. I'll have to go there with my Devo 10 and show them that in fact, it does work. >:(Don't much care for a store that lies to sell their preferred product. I actually found a site that sold the Phoenix Sim with a Devo 7 TX, but I had already purchased RF,  dang it. Using my Devo 10 with RF before going to the field, has been a big plus since it's quite different in feel from my old T6-A TX. P.S. RealFlight G6 comes with an adapter cable that works with the Devo TX's that have a trainer port, so there's no looking for an adapter.  :)May your wind sock be limp |
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Post by majic1 on Sept 20, 2012 11:43:31 GMT -8
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Post by Rodney on Sept 22, 2012 17:10:30 GMT -8
To quote: Don't you love people that tell you what they think you want to hear? Instead of researching it to find out  Excuse you? If your referring to me, I did research it and from what I find researching Phoenix/RealFlight is 50/50. And excuse me, if I didn't make myself clear that I was talking about your comment on the graphics. Your comment "I like Phoenix better because I was disappointed with the graphics", don't cut it. Physics/Graphics, depends on the users cpu and vid-card power. The better the cpu and vid-card, the better the physics/graphics, simple as that. Since you didn't state your cpu and vid-card capabilities, I stated I would go to the LHS in the area to compare RealFlight with Phoenix, but lo and behold, they don't even have one demo simulator set-up, so I have to take yours and the LHS's comment about the graphics in stride (word for it). When I asked the LHS's opinion his comment about RealFlight was "It's too cartoonish". Oh? So how's the physics? LHS,"I only use and sell Phoenix, so I can't really say". His childish comment is "It's too cartoonish and I never really flown(used) RealFlight"? I quit lying and watching cartoons a long time ago, so I do not find RealFlight even remotely "cartoonish" as far as CGI go, so maybe my cpu and graphics power is better than his, who knows, I didn't bother to ask to such a one-sided reply as "It's too cartoonish", when in fact they have nothing to back it up. Establishments like that, makes the internet and putting up with the shipping cost a better way to go. B-T-W, I'm sorry, I can not comment about Phoenix Simulator, cuz simply, I haven't seen it.....Yet. For the record. I completely agree with you. The 12 in 1 dongle DOES work with the Devo, with the trainer port on RealFlight Simulator. I just don't see paying 12+ $ for the same thing for under $5. Just research it.  My apologies Dave.  People who talk out of the wrong orifice to get a laugh or sell a product offends me. Think I'll stop being just a "Guest"....This is fun. May your Wind Sock be Limp 
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Post by Rodney on Sept 22, 2012 17:17:10 GMT -8
;D The dongle set aside, You really need to RESEARCH dude Quit showing people all the HIGH priced stuff! |
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Post by majic1 on Sept 22, 2012 19:47:51 GMT -8
I wasn't talking about you. I was referring to your LHS dealer who said it wouldn't work.
For the record, on my primary computer I am using an Intel i7-3770 CPU with 16GB DDR3-1600 RAM and an nVidia GeForce GTX 680 graphics card. But that is really irrelevant, since with both sim's running on the same machine, the Phoenix graphics are way better, hands down. I've also run it on several of my other computers with the same results. The graphics in Phoenix are much better than RF, plain and simple. As I stated earlier the Physics and realism in Phoenix is also better than RF.
As far as the links I provided, they are for reference only. So, you can see they actually do exist. The links were not meant to give you the best pricing. I'm sure you can find the same things cheaper somewhere else.
I was just trying to help you out. Take it for what it is...information.
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Post by Rodney on Sept 23, 2012 12:24:30 GMT -8
Since you didn't make a reference to whom you were speaking of, what you wrote could be construed in a different way(like I did) than which you meant to write it. Never assume anything. Assuming, makes an ASS out of U and don't you even think about ME. As it is, :-[my sincerest apology and I truly do thank you for trying to help. I think my disgust with the LHS, clouded my eyes and mind to you actually being understanding. That's an impressive system and it goes more to your credibility that what your claiming about the difference in the graphics to be true. This should have been stated in the beginning. To be clear, Sir, I don't know you from Adam, as well as you don't know me and claiming because your the moderator for this thread, that what you say is "Word", I should take you blindly at your word. Give them something to compare with. Show for those that are new to the forum or to helicopters for that matter, that you know what your claiming and why is to be true.  Once you set your credibility in a new thread your moderating, there's no question, ever from then on. As for the link. I knew it was reference only, but I truly believe no matter how much money a person may have, they are still looking for that better deal. I have found it , mainly ebay, for $129.99 free shipping. ???On your recommendation(I'm A hard one to convince) that Phoenix is a better Sim than RF, I would really like to try it, but if the physics are pretty much the same, then it's not really important how it looks, I wish to learn or improve how to fly an RC Helicopter, not play a game. If it's not clear yet, I really dislike needlessly spending money on something I didn't need in the first place. I have to say though, that one of the things that swayed me to buy RF, was the fact that RF has FPV capabilities where Phoenix(from what I've read) does not. I intend to try FPV in the future, but that's a whole new thread in it 'self. |
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Post by majic1 on Sept 23, 2012 12:45:19 GMT -8
Apology accepted. I'm sorry for any confusion.
Another thing you may want to consider is the "Training Tutorial" in Phoenix that RF does not have. It will teach you flight skills and manuevers from basic flight to beginner aerobatics to advanced aerobatics, which I find very useful.
You are correct, Phoenix does not have FPV capabilities.
For the price of RF, I could buy an FPV kit for my Mini CP and use it for that. ;D
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Post by Al on Sept 29, 2012 17:22:07 GMT -8
Hi all, newbie here. I'm glad I haven't bought anything yet. I did look into the phoenix first though since a lot of folks in various forums seem to think its the best one out there. So I looked up the system requirements and compatibility list on the phoenix web site (quote): Please note that the following transmitters are not supported: • USB controller devices and joysticks • Spektrum DX7 "SE" version (This radio has no training output for R/C simulators) • Hobbyzone transmitters and any transmitter included with ParkZone or E-Flite Ultra Micro products • All Walkera except 2401, 2601, 2402, 2602 and 2801 (see above) • Any other transmitter without a compatible training port" Also, I've heard several folks saying it will not work in windows 7 etc... Then I found a store that sells a phoenix bundle (software, Devo 7 and adapter) www.wowhobbies.com/hrz-rtm4000-devo7.aspxAt least the phoenix site cleared up the win 7 issue I've been reading about. Yet in the supported transmitter list (sample above), only 5 Walkera transmitters are listed. So, long story short, it seems to work afterall. I was hesitant to shell out 200 bucks for the bundle if there could be compatibility issues. Btw, I plan on running this on an HP Pavilion g7 (AMD Phenom II P960 Quad-Core Processor, 1800 Mhz - ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250 - (RAM) 4.00 GB. I may be a bit light on the graphics card... any opinion would be appreciated... |
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Post by majic1 on Sept 29, 2012 17:29:51 GMT -8
You got it right. It will work. And Windows 7 is not an issue either. I'm running Win 7 ultimate 64-bit and it works great.
As far as your graphics card goes, it will be fine. Phoenix doesn't necessarily require a monster video card to run. However, having one means you can run the software in much higher resolutions without any lag, which is a bonus. But not necessary.
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Post by Rodney on Oct 1, 2012 18:47:21 GMT -8
Apology accepted. I'm sorry for any confusion. Another thing you may want to consider is the "Training Tutorial" in Phoenix that RF does not have. It will teach you flight skills and manuevers from basic flight to beginner aerobatics to advanced aerobatics, which I find very useful. You are correct, Phoenix does not have FPV capabilities. For the price of RF, I could buy an FPV kit for my Mini CP and use it for that. ;D :)Thanks. Don't you hate it when some schmuck speaks from the wrong orifice? ;D Well, I went and bought the dang thing, Phoenix 4, that is and majic1, your right, Phoenix has the graphics hands down and nice user interface with the menus. I love how they separated the Heli's from the planks in Phoenix. As for the physics part of it, I'm, pardon the pun, up in the air on that one. My Devo 10 makes flying in both sims, sweet and easy it's really hard to tell which is better. I can't even use the Futaba remote that comes with Realflight, it doesn't even compare to Devo 10's feel and action as a remote. If I had to learn with the Futaba remote, I'd be in trouble. I have to say, I prefer the flying fields in Phoenix much better. Not so many objects to run into behind you(objects can be removed). Nothing like doing a fly-by, SMACK! Into a tent. In Phoenix, you don't need the b-nocs to see what the heck the heli is doing way the heck out there, like you may need to use in Realflight. RealFlight, has it's qualities that Phoenix doesn't have, like multi-user on the same screen, with two remotes and the screen split in half horizontally, so you can fly with your buddies at home, but they do share the ability for online multi-user use. I'm still exploring Phoenix and RealFlight, to see all that they have to offer as simulators. Frankly, All-in-all, I like them both. They both have features that out shines the other. Oh! Here's one that beats RF. Phoenix's scale wizard is MUCH better than RF, MUCH. Love 'em BIG! Scale an Align 700E 3G, 200% and see it fly is cool. Windows 7 Quad-Core 2.4, 8gb ram, nVidia Geforce GT 9500 1gb video ram. A bit old. Runs both simulators with no problems. To the dude that bought Phoenix with the Devo 7. When you plug in the Phoenix adapter to the remote and switch it on, does it activate the little simulator graphic icon on the Devo screen? The reason I ask is, I have to use with my Devo 10, a different USB adapter with a 1/8" phono plug or the adapter from the RealFlight remote to activate it, then plug-in the Phoenix adapter before running the Phoenix 4 software. If I don't do this before running Phoenix, nothing happens. No Sim Icon. No response. Dead. Wonder if I should mention this to Dave? Hey, Dave.. You reading this? Something "Walkera Corp." might want to know about? Hmmm? And yes, a model mode is set for Simulator Use(No settings). |
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Post by WalkeraHelicopterSupply on Oct 4, 2012 9:18:48 GMT -8
Geez, guyz, I need to spend more time on my own forum. Youse guys are really taking the ball and running with it. I greatly thank you all. I didn't even know there was a cable available. I am an old time Phoenix user and selected Phoenix after doing a lot of research a few years ago.
Rodney, now I am speaking out of the wrong orifice because I don't have a clue. What I will tell you though is that I will order a cable today so I can personally try it out. I will have much more time when Motorcycle Training season is over in November (For those of you who don't know I am a MSF (Motorcycle Safety Foundation) and WA State certified instructor and deputized examiner. Those activities take up all of my "free" time during the summer. I like to call myself the world's busiest retired guy.)
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dang it. Using my Devo 10 with RF before going to the field, has been a big plus since it's quite different in feel from my old T6-A TX.
Excuse you? If your referring to me, I did research it and from what I find researching Phoenix/RealFlight is 50/50. And excuse me, if I didn't make myself clear that I was talking about your comment on the graphics. Your comment "I like Phoenix better because I was disappointed with the graphics", don't cut it. Physics/Graphics, depends on the users cpu and vid-card power. The better the cpu and vid-card, the better the physics/graphics, simple as that. Since you didn't state your cpu and vid-card capabilities, I stated I would go to the LHS in the area to compare RealFlight with Phoenix, but lo and behold, they don't even have one demo simulator set-up, so I have to take yours and the LHS's comment about the graphics in stride (word for it). When I asked the LHS's opinion his comment about RealFlight was "It's too cartoonish". Oh? So how's the physics? LHS,"I only use and sell Phoenix, so I can't really say". His childish comment is "It's too cartoonish and I never really flown(used) RealFlight"? I quit lying and watching cartoons a long time ago, so I do not find RealFlight even remotely "cartoonish" as far as CGI go, so maybe my cpu and graphics power is better than his, who knows, I didn't bother to ask to such a one-sided reply as "It's too cartoonish", when in fact they have nothing to back it up. Establishments like that, makes the internet and putting up with the shipping cost a better way to go.
People who talk out of the wrong orifice to get a laugh or sell a product offends me. Think I'll stop being just a "Guest"....This is fun. 
Once you set your credibility in a new thread your moderating, there's no question, ever from then on. 
